Monday, November 16, 2009

What's the difference between Judo and BJJ ?

are they similar? is Sambo similar to judo and BJJ?|||The short answer is that judo is great on throws, less good on groundwork, while BJJ is great on groundwork, not so good on throws. Judo also tends to be cheaper and easier to find.





- The long answer:





Judo was founded by Jigoro Kano in Japan, who had studied various styles of jiu-jitsu in the late 19th century. He realised that the big problem with what he had learned was the training methodology. That resulted in Kano instituting a focus on %26#039;randori%26#039; (live sparring), along with %26#039;shiai%26#039; (a form of sanctioned competition). Kano also removed the so-called %26#039;deadly%26#039; techniques from the jiu-jitsu he had studied (things like eye-gouges, groin strikes etc), which made randori and shiai much more viable.





That had the end result of considerably increasing efficacy: because those early judoka (judo practitioner) could train %26#039;non-deadly%26#039; (in the sense that you don%26#039;t have to fully crank an armbar, lock on a choke etc, as your opponent has the option of tapping before serious damage) techniques full-contact, they became highly proficient, and in fact more %26#039;deadly%26#039; than their non-sparring contemporaries in what might be called %26#039;self-defence%26#039; orientated styles. As John Danaher puts it in Mastering Jujitsu, %26quot;the deadly techniques favored by so many traditional martial arts have only a theoretical deadliness with little practical deadliness.%26quot; (pp17-19). For more, see my historical summary:





http://slideyfoot.blogspot.com/1982/06/h...





Since Kano%26#039;s innovations, judo has grown to become one of the biggest martial arts in the world today. There have also been changes to the average judo club%26#039;s syllabus: thanks in large part to its inclusion in the Olympics, high amplitude throws are now the main focus of judo (as that is what wins competitions: the rules are geared toward throwing your opponent rather than grappling them on the ground). This means there is less time for %26#039;newaza%26#039; (groundwork), although a good judo school will try to divide teaching equally between %26#039;tachiwaza%26#039; (throws) and newaza. Most importantly, judoka still train randori against fully resisting opponents, so they get that essential feedback on whether their technique is effective or not.





A judoka, Mitsuyo Maeda (he%26#039;s known by various names, but that%26#039;s the most common), brought the art to Brazil in the early 20th century, where he taught it to the Gracie family. At the time, the name %26#039;judo%26#039; wasn%26#039;t set in stone, with people still referring to Kano%26#039;s style as things like %26#039;Kano jiu-jitsu%26#039;. Hence in Brazil, the term %26#039;jiu-jitsu%26#039; stuck.





From judo, the Gracies developed their own variation of the style, which has become known as Brazilian Jiu Jitsu (in Brazil, its normally just referred to as %26#039;jiu-jitsu%26#039;). Unlike judo, BJJ focused more on groundwork, so the evolution of the sport went in the other direction, with highly developed groundfighting, but less attention to throws. BJJ also retained the approach to live rolling, so as in judo, you test your technique against fully resisting opponents.





Judo has spread all across the world over the course of the 20th century, so there are numerous high level judoka teaching pretty much everywhere. That means that supply is high compared to demand, so you can normally find good quality judo relatively cheap. BJJ, on the other hand, has only got going internationally since Royce Gracie showed his stuff in UFC 1 back in 1993. BJJ instructors are therefore far less common, meaning that its a lot more expensive than judo (unless you%26#039;re in Brazil, in which case BJJ has been there since 1925, so less costly).





If you can, its ideal to train both judo and BJJ, as that way you get great takedowns combined with awesome groundwork. However, if you have to choose between one or the other, your decision should depend on whether you prefer standing up or staying on the ground. Also, judo is usually more formal than BJJ, so if you don%26#039;t like bowing and using Japanese terminology, judo may be a bad idea. They%26#039;re both great grappling styles: for more info, see the Bullshido.com summaries on judo and BJJ.





http://www.bullshido.com/articles/judo-6...


http://www.bullshido.com/articles/brazil...





- SAMBO





SAMBO is a Russian system which also evolved from judo, which was initially popularised by Vasili Sergevich Oshchepkov. He opened the first judo club in Russia in 1914, and also organised the first judo competition in 1932. The Leningrad Sport Committee prohibited a competition between the Moscow and Leningrad judo teams in 1936, which Oshchepkov protested. Unfortunately for him, that led to his arrest as a %26#039;Japanese spy%26#039;: he later died under suspicious circumstances in prison.





In 1938, Anatoli Arcadievich Kharlampiev took the hint and came up with %26#039;Soviet freestyle wrestling%26#039;, which was basically judo under a new name, modified under the influence of a few native wrestling styles. That was then renamed to SAMBO, which is short for SAMozashcita Bez Oruzhiya, meaning %26quot;self defence without weapons%26quot;.





It differs from judo and BJJ in its focus on lower-body submissions, and also in that you aren%26#039;t allowed to use chokes (although I don%26#039;t think that is true for all SAMBO schools, and there is also something called %26#039;combat SAMBO%26#039;). In adition, SAMBO does not use the same training equipment: practitioners wear shoes, a jacket (called a %26#039;kurtka%26#039;, comparable to a gi top) and shorts rather than a gi.|||Emphasis. BJJ developed more of the ground fighting aspect (it was based on the Judo being taught by Matsuyo Maeda who was apparently very well known for his groundwork skills), whereas Judo today tends to have more of the throwing (since this tends to be the easiest way to score Ippon). Sambo shares similarities with Judo (especially Sport Sambo), with certain rule changes (If I recall, something about no chokes and permitting leg locks, but I could be wrong).





Hope that helps.|||Judo came from Japanese or traditional Jiujitsu. Gigoro Cano took out all the weapons and techniques he didn%26#039;t consider necessary.





Brazilian jujitsu came off Kodokan Judo, and emphasizes on the ground aspect of grappling, Helio Gracie took Judo techniques and adapted it to fit his size.|||You have a few good answers. I think slide has given the most complete answer so far. I don%26#039;t know the reasons for the thumbs down.|||Judo is $80/month and bjj is $140/month|||a serous a$$ whoopin.|||Judo and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu do have connections. I believe, jiu jitsu branched off from Judo and BJJ branched off from regular jiu jitsu. Brazilian Jiu Jitsu heavil emphasizes ground works and submissions, it is basically submission grappling. No strikes. Judo focus%26#039; on sweeps and throws standing up. Judo does have some submissions and ground control, but it is more throws and sweeps.





Sambo is similar to todays sport Mixed Martial arts. If has strikes, takedowns, submissions, kicks etc. Your getting the whole package by training in sambo.





EDIT someone explain to me what i said wrong? wow 6 thumbs down..

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