Which helps more for takedowns and pins ? Which helps more for wrestling ? In what ways ? Why ? How ? Thanks.|||Jujitsu you use joint locking techniques on your opponent and you do not usually have to wait for your opponent to be aggressive with your first to implement a jujitsu technique.
Judo uses many flips and throws using the hips versus using the joints and tend to be more passive aggresive waiting for their opponent to make the first move.
I would say that Jujitsu would teach you more about takedowns and pins but neither will help with highschool or college wrestling unless you go on TV with it. The moves are illegal from either form in highschool or college wrestling.
if you want to get better at wrestling than practice wrestling. It will serve you well when you decide to train in a martial arts submission style.|||Well, juijitsu won%26#039;t help your takedowns. In fact, bjj won%26#039;t do anything for folkstyle wrestling. Well, maybe a bit, but very little compared to judo, because judo helps you w/ takedowns.
Oh yeah, some of the time in judo your takedown goes directly to a pin, but most of the time a near fall as you are not in a good position to pin. Downside is that you can rarely do a move twice after you%26#039;ve done it to a person, since their coach will usually tell them how to the block the move the wrestlers never seen before.
I highly recommend judo.
Anecdotal evidence my best takedown move that I only used in practice was a judo move, it wouldn%26#039;t work @ state level. Here%26#039;s an idea: a kid I wrestled with and graduated w/ is ranked 2nd in the US in judo and got 2nd at state in a difficult state. So it overlaps.|||Ah a common question, jujitsu was created quite a while before judo, although i don%26#039;t know exactly when it was formed. Jujitsu was a complete form of fighting that left no stone unturned, although it was primarily focused on self defence and sparring. Jujitsu contains striking, grappling, throws, groundwork, pressure points, you name it. Although it degenerated quite a bit around the eighteen seventies when the samurai were disbanded and martial arts was shunned. Jujitsu survived basically in the schools and through show matches, where people could pay to watch jujitsu practitioners fight eachother, or casual untrained people in it for money. With this, jujitsu became barbaric in some areas, and in others jujitsu became splintered into specialized groups that focused on one specific area or another, resulting in poorer technical roundness. Jigaro Kano was a jujitsu practioner from his youth, he practiced hard under his master (i have forgotten his name, sorry) until his death. After Kano%26#039;s sensei died he moved on to find other dojo, and found other methods of teaching. His love of the martial arts took him to many dojo and he studied all of the different aspects. Being educated, Kano took a scientific eye to martial arts, using logic and reason, removed the death blows, and set up a systematic learning system for judo in 1882, which is formally called kodokan judo, because there was already a jujitsu dojo, or a style of jujitsu, can%26#039;t recall, i shall have to look it up again, called judo. His kodokan judo was a safer means of martial arts, one which was socially strong, and had good moral basis. Because anyone could practice judo it became quite popular. Originally there was striking in judo, if you can get a hold of a traditional kodokan judo book all the strikes are listed, and all the vital points. But mainly it was a proccess in which you used the attackers energy against him. he pushes you, you pull him, throw him, he pulls you, you step in, sweep him. There was another recession, i think around the nineteen twenties, or probably the thirties, when world war two was going on. After the war, judo came back mainly as a sport and became geared towards competition.
Now if you read that blurb above, i don%26#039;t blame you if you didn%26#039;t, i find it interesting, others don%26#039;t have to, judo is a softer martial art that leans towards competition, and is a better choice for wrestling, for it has a wide variety of pins and takedowns, many of which are not seen in wrestling, and surprise can work wonders. I know several judoka that also do wrestling, and they do fabulous in both, the cross training with different ideas does incredible work for thier technique and it helps with conditioning. In jujitsu, all the same stuff is still there, but there is a lot of other things, such as striking and pressure points, that you really don%26#039;t need for wrestling. I would advise judo, check the phone book for a club, or the internet, i swear google knows everything.
Happy hunting.|||I am an active student of both Judo and BJJ. They both compliment each other very well.
Judo is focused more on takedowns and BJJ teaches groundwork from all positions. Judo has great throws and you will learn how to transition into the proper position on the mat. Judo%26#039;s grounwork consists of pins, armbars, strangles and chokes.
BJJ main focus is groundwork they use the same techniques that Judo has but adds lower body submissions and neck cranks. In BJJ you will learn more escapes, sweeps and submissions than judo.
I feel that cross training in both has helped me in both arts. As far as wrestling is concerned you should take both, Judo will help your takedowns and defense and BJJ will help you move better from all positions and you will be exposed to alot of different grappling positions (however the submissions will not be allowed in regular american wrestling).|||Jiu Jitsu and Judo are very similar and Judo was even derived from Jiu Jitsu as a sparring form.
Differences:
Jiu Jitsu practitioners concentrate on ground work
Judo emphasizes the importance of takedowns and throws and ground work is very watered down in Judo, for instance a
player had only 25 seconds to escape a hold or pin before the match was lost in a competitive judo match.
Judo-takedowns
Jiu Jitsu submissions
Judo will help with traditional wrestling or greco-roman restling, as the throws and reverses in judo are very effective. Jiu Jitsu strangles and submissions are very good for submission style wrestling.
Brazilian Jiu Jitsu is very similar to traditional Jiu Jitsu, but
Brazilian Jiu Jitsu was refined from Jiu Jitsu even further in the early 1900s by the Gracie Family to incorporate no rules fighting, on the streets of Brazil. It proved to be very effective as the no rules fighitig always encouraged Brazilian Jiu Jitsu to be refined.|||Judo is a competitive tournament sport which emphasizes flips and throws. Look at the outfit they wear for judo it will give you a clue. The uniforms are heavy at the edges so you have something to grab onto to throw people around. One of the amazing things about judo is that a skilled, much-smaller contestant can defeat a much larger one. For self-defense, the strategy is to throw your attacker and then run like hell to get out of there!
Jujitsu is similar to judo but it includes a sophisticated system of joint locks. The joint locks are useful to restrain an opponent. Therefore, jujitsu is useful for police and security work. Also, the joint locks are combined with throws.
Probably, many of the joint locks in jujitsu would be illegal in wrestling. So, my poorly educated guess is that the study judo would be more useful for the wrestler.
Both martial arts emphasize the use of skill over strength. And, I know that wrestlers spend a lot of time in strength training and use a lot of strength moves. So I don%26#039;t really know how they translate. But I have known wrestlers who studied one of these arts or both. I think that the study of judo is more popular among wrestlers.
Keep in mind that one martial art is not better than an other one, but some martial artists are better than others.|||Judo was originally created from jiujitsu . Jiujitsu is more of a fighting style . Judo has less strikes .|||Lot of good answers.... good job all.
I%26#039;ll add just a bit... Judo, the %26quot;do%26quot; means way and has been popularized as a sport and safe (or safer). Juijitsu has older roots and such and is more fighting. BJJ is the youngest (I believe) and emphasises the ground game where Judo and Jujitdo either do not or don%26#039;t at all. All of them do pins so to speak, Judo has good take downs as does Jujitsu. I had a friend who did aikdo and was a great wrestler (that is just him though). As far as which helps most... that would depend upon the school. All require practice and partners of varying size and strength. I could say X is the best but the school might not be any good. So I would encourage you to check out the school and coach/master/teacher. That will be the real judge.
As far as strength training goes, you do you use strength in grappling but endurance really comes into play as well. Practice both for better results.
Hope this helps a bit.|||judo and ju jit su are derived from each other...well judo is from ju jit su from dr. kano. takedowns and pins would go directly to judo and the wrestleing to unless your meaning submission wrestleing then it would have to go to ju jit su...judo is great to take someone down effectively,throws and sweeps,and to hold someone down. ju jit su is better for submissions such as anything from the ground...anything from chokes to armbars...even though judo teaches all those they dont teach any leg locks,only chokes and arm bars. its better to know both...always have it mixed...dont just train one way in one m.a. but they are an effective tool to have when doing any type of m.a.
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