Would a black belt in Judo earn you a higher starting rank in BJJ?|||You would have to start as a white belt. It is not unlikely that you will be respected for your rank as a sensei (as well you should!) and although you would not be an instructor at the BJJ school I%26#039;m sure they%26#039;ll call on your experience since it will make them better at taking people to the ground.
Your time in grade (color belts) may be shortened due to your achievements in a parallel art but you shouldn%26#039;t have a higher starting point than anyone else beginning that art. (Some schools will actually add a black stripe to your obi so that others in that school will recognize that you are ranked in another martial art).|||you would start at white, if you focused primarily on tachi-waza in judo you would have barely any advantage over the average student, if you spent a lot of time on ne-waza in judo you would advance more quickly than most other students, but you would start at white|||You would start off white but you would have a quicker transition to blue than most|||If you have certification to show your Jujitsu instructor(s) you should be allowed to wear your black belt in class but, you%26#039;ll start off just like the rest of the new students.|||you have to earn all your belts again|||White|||you should always start out white belt,no matter what other style you have taken. Just because you have BB in another style doesnt mean that they will do a technique the way you were trained to do it in your previous style.It could be a better way or it could not. I had a lady call me to sign up for my class, she was a BB in TKD and wanted to be to start out a BB in Aikido. I told her no it doesnt work like that.So she said that she wasnt going to take the class because of it.|||You ALWAYS start at white and work your way up. Previous experience in another style is of no consequence!|||You would start as a beginner because it is a different system.
The respectful thing to do is to tell your new teacher your rank and let them decide.
Also, don%26#039;t focus on rank. It is abstract and does not exist outside the doors of your training facility.
It is just used for organization. Train to improve yourself, not to obtain a title and a colored piece of fabric.|||It has been my experience, in both observation and in talking to other martial artists, that your black belt, in whatever discipline will be recognized; HOWEVER, when changing disciplines, you will have to learn the required techniques and knowledge in your new discipline before you are allowed to advance. Technically you are a novice in your new discipline; depending on the similarities in the styles, it could take you just as long to advance in your new discipline as if you had never studied. As far as wearing your black belt in your new class, It has been my experience that you will be allowed to wear it.|||The very first rank again, despite his assumed skill. My own dream in life is not to master one martial arts, but train in many. The styles have different tactics, and can greaten a person%26#039;s skill greatly if practiced many. If an Aikido master starts training in Kung Fu, he would also beging fresh, because the skill in Kung Fu is defferent than Aikido%26#039;s, therefor must be learned as if no skill had ever been learned.|||No, You%26#039;d be a white belt again, but it would help you progress much faster.|||Within my association I recognize rank.from whatever other discipline someone comes from. Once they join us, we assess them within our own discipline and grade or rank them appropriately. The student then is either presented with a belt equivalent to that assessment or they may wear their former belt until they earn promotion within out discipline to the next grade or rank.
I think this is especially significant with black belt holders from whatever system or discipline they come from. If they have put in the work and effort required to earn black belt, they are significanlty further advanced than complete novice or beginner students to the martial arts who can frequently hardly spell the arts name never mind perform it. A black belt normally comes to another discipline to supplement or advance their knowledge, not be be taught how to tie their belt again.
I have found it disheartening to many novice and beginner students when seniors are put back into programs at white belt. Many times the other students are not completely aware of this, but they see another %26quot;beginner%26quot; working at a far superior level to them and they begin to wonder if they are failing somehow. The black belt has knowledge, experience, and understanding that %26quot;should%26quot; always put them futher ahed on the grading scale within a new discipline.
All of this said, our junior black belts assess color belts coming from another school or disicpline to place them within our program at the appropriate level, while our senior black belts asses black belts in a similar way. We have often seen students who have relative rank that is ahead of the knowledge, understanding, or ability we believe should be associated with that rank. It%26#039;s not for us to question their previous instructor, so we simply recognize this, position them appropriately within our system, and make them learn everything necessary up to that positioning before allowing them to move ahead to the next grade or rank.
I realize many schools use the %26quot;start at white belt%26quot; approach. Philosophically I disagree with that approach for the reasons mentioned above and for a number of other contributory reasons where the starting over approach has negative consequencies. I have seen students in competition been whooped by students who have the same rank but are worlds apart in skill and understanding only to find out they have been graded by their school somtimes six or more levels lower than their exprience. This is one reason why in our tournaments we don%26#039;t ask for rank, we ask for years of training to determine relative experience and division placement.
Ultimately, it is up to each individual instructor who runs a school to decide their school protocol and advancement philosophy. I understand the %26quot;start from the beginning%26quot; idea, but frankly I think it is rather outdated and limiting these days.
Ken C
9th Dan HapMoosaKi-Do
8th Dan TaeKwon-Do
7th Dan YongChul-Do|||I guess it could. They should allow that person to test to see what level to start.|||My BJJ instructor was a black belt in Japanese Jiu-Jitsu. He started off as a white belt in BJJ. We also had a BB Judo man in our class, he also started off as a white belt.
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