Saturday, May 15, 2010

Does BJJ training involve forward rolls and back rolls like judo?

Im looking at taking up Brazillian Ju Jitsu but am not a fan of the rolls that are involved in arts such as judo.|||It doesn%26#039;t matter if you%26#039;re a %26quot;fan%26quot; of them or not. If you want to grapple you MUST learn to fall safely. Rolls and breakfalls are an integral part of training in jujitsu %26amp; judo. No one is so good to say you will never be taken down by an opponent therefor you need to learn how to land safely from various takedowns or throws. Once you learn to fall well I think you%26#039;ll become breakfall%26#039;s #1 Fan!


Good luck and train hard!!|||You sound like a guy who thinks because he knows BJJ or JUDO he is never going to be thrown or taken down so you dont have to bother with that boring rolling and proper break falling.BJJ is JUDO the gracies never studied jujutsu but were taught judo.|||We do rolls as a warmup, not sure wht rolls there are in Judo, if your talking about som special role move then no, if just learning how to roll and breakfall as a warm up then yes they do it in BJJ|||Yes, it does you can look it up Carlson Gracie the founder of BJJ is a Kodokan Judo Black Belt he use to compete in Japan in the 20%26#039;s in Judo tournaments. You can find the videos on You Tube of him fighting %26amp; Royce in Judo tournaments in the 70%26#039;s competing.|||There isnt a ground fighting system that doesnt involve the kinds of rolling that you mention, its all a position game.





To the guy above me, you need to get your facts straight





In the early 1900%26#039;s, a Japanese jiu-jitsu instructor by the name of Esai Maeda went to the state of Para in Northern Brazil. There he befriended Gastao Gracie, a influential businessman, who helped the Japanese get established. To show his gratitude, Maeda, also known as %26quot;Count Koma,%26quot; offered to teach the traditional Japanese jiu-jitsu to Gastao%26#039;s oldest son, Carlos.





The youngest son of Gastao and Cesalina Gracie%26#039;s eight children, Helio was always a very physically frail child. He would run up a flight of stairs and have fainting spells. Nobody could figure out why. So, after completing second grade, he convinced his mother that he shouldn%26#039;t go to school any more.





When the family experienced some financial hardships following their move to Rio, some of the children were scattered to live with other relatives. Helio was sent to live with some aunts and through these family contacts, he found work as a coxman for a popular local rowing team, eventually moving into the team dorms. His indomitable spirit, great sense of humor and tireless aptitude to drive people nuts, earned him the nickname of %26quot;Caxinguele,%26quot; which means %26quot;squirrel.%26quot; He raised hell!





After a couple of years, when he was about 14, he moved in with his older brothers who lived and taught jiu-jitsu in a house in Botafogo, a borough of Rio de Janeiro. He would spend the next few years limited to only watching his brothers teach, especially Carlos, since doctors had recommended that they keep Helio away from any physical activity.





One day when he was 16 years old, a student showed up for class and Carlos was not around. Helio, who had memorized all the moves and words of his older brother, offered to start the class. When the class was over, Carlos showed up very apologetic for his delay. The student answered, %26quot;No problem. I enjoyed the class with Helio very much and, if you don%26#039;t mind, I%26#039;d like to continue with him.%26quot; Carlos agreed and Helio became an instructor.





He soon realized that some of the techniques he had memorized from watching Carlos teach were not very easy for him to execute. He then started to adapt those moves to his frail body%26#039;s abilities, improving the leverage in the execution of some of those techniques. He dared to break away from the traditional jiu-jitsu his brothers had learned and were teaching, and through trial and error, Gracie Jiu-Jitsu was born.





Helio eventually fought 17 fights including matches against the world wrestling champion, Wladek Zbyszko and a qualifying fight against the #2 jiu-jitsu fighter in the world, Kato, who Helio choked unconscious in 6 minutes. This victory enabled him to enter the ring with the world champion, Masahiko Kimura, who outweighed Helio by over 80 pounds. Helio Gracie holds the record for the longest match in history for a battle against his former student, Waldemar Santana, which lasted an amazing 3 hours and 40 minutes

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