Monday, November 16, 2009

In a Judo/Wrestling match, how does one take down a heavier, more muscular opponent?

I know they are the same weight with you, but you know what I mean. They%26#039;re more heavier, or they%26#039;re more muscular or bigger in other words. How would you take them down?





Thanks for your input!|||It is all a question of physics. Weight dispersal and use of momentum to accomplish your take for you. To get an opponent down; in Judo, that is heavier you will have to think as if you were playing chess. You need to figure out a method of getting his weight moving forward. Once you accomplish this then any number of take downs can be used. The problem will be to get his weight moving forward. I suggest you work on various sweeps to interrupt his stance. Then use a pivoting action; using your hips to generate power, to get his weight moving in the direction you want it to go. This will only work if you do both almost simultaneously and if you can out think your opponent. If you do not out think him then he will be able to counter your moves simply by out thinking you.|||Make use of all the skills,techniques %26amp; all what you%26#039;ve learn%26#039;t to confront with boldness.You%26#039;ll surely overcome.|||Espically in a wrestling match (never took judo, cant give feedback sorry) I would shoot in on the guys legs, single leg if he was crouched down low and had one leg sticking out way more out then the other, or a double leg takedown if his feet were side by side.





To do a single leg, you shoot, or tackle the leg thats sticking out furthest. You always make sure that on a single leg takedown, your head is always on the inside of his body; if going for the right leg, you put your left shoulder against his knee and right shoulder for left knee, and grab his ankle with atleast one hand, both if you can. ALWAYS put your shoulder on his knee when going for a single. Remember that you are trying to drive him backward, its not a football cut tackle and you dont want him falling on top of you.





For a double, you want to aim for his hips and not his knees. First you get down real low, your chest should be at his knees, wrap both your arms around the bottom of his butt, and just like when lifting weights, stand up with your legs and not your back, turn him to his side in mid air and then drop him on his side. Look at any Matt Hughes video for a visual on double leg takedowns. I havent seen any good videos for single leg takedowns however.|||its about shifting your weight so even if you are smaller you can gain control , like in judo you get your opponet behind you and duck down and use your leg strength to elevate them and throw them





its all weight distribution|||In any scenario, even if they are considerably larger than you, you can %26quot;take down%26quot; someone (which I%26#039;m assuming you mean a throw) by using leverage. There%26#039;s a lot of power in balance and if you can steal theirs you can literally control where they go.





To illustrate the power of balance, the chinese say that if you steal a man%26#039;s balance, you steal his power. That%26#039;s a pretty major thing.





You may want to check out the episode of the Human Weapon on Judo. They actually talk about leverage and doing a hip toss in that episode. It%26#039;s a great example of how leverage can be applied to even an outsized combatant for a devastating result.|||When I go against the smaller guys the throws I worry about are foot sweeps. They can be used very effectively with good timing and speed.|||First of all Judo is not wrestling.





Judo and wrestling have two different methods to accomplish putting their opponent on the mat.





You might want to watch a Judo video and a wrestling video to see the differences.

How will wrestling benefit my judo? And vise versa.?

I am 14 years old a freshman in highschool and I recently took up wrestling as a sport. I have been in judo almost 4 years (next january)and am a 3rd degree brown belt. I have been cross training consistently between judo and wrestling. Since I do judo mondays wednesdays and saturdays for 3 hours each day and wrestling every day (minus weekends) for 2 hours. Am I doing too much and how will wrestling benefit me in judo or vise versa?|||Daniel,





I have done both over the years and found they to compliment each other. Improving my ability in both areas I had a coach that was both a Judo and Wrestling coach believed cross training was important.





The combination of the Judo and Wrestling of throwing, sweeps, take downs snap downs, slide bys, shrugs, ankle picks and headlocks and staying on top / pinning combinations and the Judo te-waza , koshi-waza , and ashi-waza ect- blend together well .You will be a force to be reckon with





Jimmy Pedro did judo and wrestling from the time he was 5 years old. and he has had a very successful background in wrestling when at high school he won two state wrestling titles.


He is the most successful judo competitor from the USA of all time. Since 1989, Jimmy Pedro has been a world class competitor. Just some of Jimmy锟絪 achievements include:





GOLD MEDALS





1989 Quebec Open; US Open;





1990 Tre Torre 锟?Italy; US Open;





1992 Pan Am Championships; Guio Sieni, Italy; US Open;





1993 Pacific Rim 锟?New Zealand;





1995 US Open; Pan Am Games, Argentina; German Open (he was the only American ever to win this event);





1997 Pan Am Championships, Mexico; German Open;





1998 Austrian Open; Shoriki Cup (he was the only American ever to win this event);





Paris Open (he was the only American ever to win this event); US Open;





1999 Pan Am Games, Canada





1999 Hyundai World Judo Champion





SILVER MEDALS





1988 US Open;





1990 Goodwill Games, Seattle;





1992 Hungarian Open;





1993 US Open; French Open; Sungkok Cup, Korea.





BRONZE MEDALS





1988 Shoriki Cup, Japan;





1990 Jr World Championships; Tblissi (USSR) International;





1991 World Championships; US Open; Pan Am Games,Cuba; Pacific Rim Championships;





1992 French Open; German Open;





1994 Goodwill Games, Russia;





1995 World Championships; Pacific Rim Championships;





1996 French Open;





OLYMPIC BRONZE MEDAL 锟?996 Atlanta





1997 Austrian Open; French Open;





1998 German Open





1999 Kano Cup, Japan





He definitely has a wrestling style when he does judo, but he is probably one of the best judoka the USA has produced.





Jason Morris also wrestled in high school- Jason Morris started his Judo Journey in 1975 at the age of 8 and retired after his fourth appearance at the Olympics in 2000. Jason%26#039;s competition career spanned 26 years.





Included among the many awards and titles





Jason won is a Silver medal in the 1992 Olympics and a Bronze medal at the 1993 World Championships.





Devin Willis|||cross training can only improve you over all. there may be conflicts, but your ability to adapt in a fight is increased through increased skill awareness. you will be less foolish in assuming that ONE way can do it all.





good on you for spreading your wings|||Wrestling definitely has the better take downs. Double legs, Single Legs, Ankle Picks, Lateral Drops, Hip Tosses, Headlocks, etc. Judo is good for after you get the guy on the ground with is various chokes, arm locks, leg locks, etc.

Was there a Larry Williams on the judo team for USA at the Mexico Olympics?

The Larry I know who claimed to be on the judo team is about 55 years old and black and grew up in the Oakland, California area.|||There was no judo competition at the 1968 Summer Olympics held in Mexico City.

What's the difference between judo, tae kon do and karate?

What%26#039;s the best for my son to start?|||Have your son take an intro class in each. Check into the credentials of the instructors of the one he likes most, and if you are comfortable with the result of your investigation, go with it.





Judo - Similar to wrestling (real wrestling, not WWE) in that grappling and ground fighting are paramount





TKD %26amp; Karate - so similar, to the point of symantic differences. Taekwondo does focus on Kicks (Tae in Korean means to kick), and Karate does focus on hand strikes (Te in Japanese means hand), but they both punch and kick. These punches and kicks have similar application and technique, so again, the differences are small.





So, again, find a school/instructor you and your son likes, then go from there. Style is irrelevant.|||Karate and Tae-Kwon-Do are both striking arts. Tae-Kwon-Do is Korean, Karate is Japanese. As mentioned, Tae-Kwon-Do has a tendency to use more kicks, while Karate focuses more on strikes with the hand. Karate tends to be more simple and to the point, while Tae-Kwon-Do involves more flourish.





Judo is a Japanese grappling art that focuses on throws, joint locks, submissions, foot-sweeps, etc... Apart from a few mixed schools, Judo doesn%26#039;t typically train in blows or blocking them. Some consider it a sport more than a martial art for this reason and its focus on competition between judokas.|||Karate is the art of the empty hand....There are many types like Kempo Karate for one. Judo focuses on throws and holds. Tae kwon do is a Korean Karate that focuses heavily on kicks and blocks.|||Judo is a martial sport that focuses on grappling and throws only. In the self defense version called %26quot;Goshin-Jitsu%26quot;, there are a few strikes taught but I don%26#039;t know if they teach that with a regular class or not. I do know that all schools do not teach it though.





Taekwondo is mainly (but not only) a kicking art and alot of it is pure flashiness unfortunately, but the traditional organizations will teach them more practically. I woulg go for the traditional version rather than the olympic and crappy %26quot;McDojo%26quot; versions. Seriously though, your son needs to avoid an art that teaches high kicks, because doing so in a real fight could easily cause himself to get offbalanced, and once that happens and he falls, he is threw. For a small kid though, high kicks can somewhat help him/her beat a big attacker because they are harder to counter if the child is quick enough and hits the groin area only.





Karate on the other hand, there are so many types that it isn%26#039;t funny at all. I cannot give you any specific info on Karate because there are too many varieties to name off, but I think a Karate school would be better for your son than a Taekwondo school because they tend to be more practical for people who are just starting out in the MA world.





A very good and practial martial art for your son would be one that teaches boxing type punches instead of the traditional karate-type punches, mid-to-low level kicks, something called trapping, intercepting, and all sorts of grappling and throws. This method of training is proven more practical for real life self defense and it can work for EVERYONE.





When I started with martial arts at age 12, I was in an art called %26quot;Dragon Kenpo%26quot;, which was practical and all, but didn%26#039;t teach a proper foundation. So around the same year I slowly drew out of training because I wasn%26#039;t really going anywhere with it. I knew that I had to start all over again because my sensai didn%26#039;t teach any proper guidelines to follow by, so I improved my skill by learning Jeet Kune Do, which is Bruce Lee%26#039;s training method. This really can be learned at home as long as you have the right equipment and a sparring partner who is willing. Years later, I learned some Aikijujitsu methods and throws because I wasn%26#039;t strong and needed a way to defeat stronger people. It is also good for getting out of the line of attacks by using circular evasions and throwing the attacker off balance by blending in with the attack. This method is better than fighting head on with your opponent. Your son can learn this method too because it is VERY practical for starters.





All in all, it is up to your son to decide what to take up. He does need a starter martial art first in order to get some knowledge of how some things work. After that, he can figure out on his own what works for him and what doesn%26#039;t. This is a process and takes some time. Sometimes it takes switching from martial art to martial art to find things that work, because alot of martial arts instructors teach hundreds of techniques, but only a FEW of them you can actually use realistically.





I wish you good luck on helping him find an art that fits him.|||Judo and karate are Japanese, and tae kwan do is Korean. Judo is wrestling style copied from older jiu jitsu. Karate and tae kwan do are boxing styles. In Judo, you throw men. In karate, you punch men. Tae kwan do and karate have the same basic moves my lover says, but there is diffeerent emphasis. I began on karate and ballet when I was 4 years old. My lover has studied many Japanese, Chinese, Korean and Tibetian styles. He is visiting mother now. He could advice you better, but I think karate is good for son. He studied tae kwan do, but I did not. He show me some and it like karate.|||I%26#039;m no expert, but i can say that tae kwon do mostly uses kicks, and can be used for offense and defense both, and studying tae kwon do would make him gain flexibility. It%26#039;s a nice one to start training in martial arts.





Judo focuses on defence, and is very good especially for a skinny guy to defend himself in tough situations (I heard it was invented by someone who was weak and was bullied by others).





Aikido is also a defensive technique, albeit a little more aggressive than judo, i guess. You may want to consider that too.





Don%26#039;t know much about karate, i hope someone else can shed some light on it.

What is a good Judo book or video to start out with?

I have no experience and want a beginner video or book that is very step by step.|||You may have more success and receive more answers if you post this in the martial arts subsection under Health. I wish I could help but the best I could do is suggest you go to amazon.com and read some of the reviews, see if there are any qualified reviewers and see what they recommend.





Good luck with your exploration and growth.

Would training in judo make me stronger and faster?

Would it also be a good workout? How hard is it?|||Sure. Judo is your best try for that.|||judo is tough there are alot of slams and depending on the teacher it will make you stronger and faster......it is a great workout to.....but if you looking for best workout take up Mixed Martial Arts (MMA)|||yes


yes


yes|||It depends on what kind of training your sensei does. But I highly recommend judo and good luck.|||Yes. Judo is both anaerobic and aerobic. If you find a good dojo (place to learn judo) and good instruction, judo can be a lifelong sport with excellent conditioning. It involves both standing work (throwing techniques) and ground work with some similarities to wrestling. Check out sev. dojo before choosing one!|||it would do both-make you stronger and faster, especially with reaction time. It will also make you smarter in a sense,as you get a better grasp of the concept of leverage and the other physics involved with throwing a bigger opponent. Can%26#039;t go wrong with judo training.|||Yes, it definitely would. I take mixed martial arts and judo is one thing I have learned. It is a great workout as well because you work out nearly your whole body..and use your whole body. You do have to learn how to be fast..especially with the punches and kicks and blocks. Blocks are extremely important too..especially when trying to protect the face and chest. It is somewhat hard..but not too hard to learn. I mean you don%26#039;t need a college degree to do judo if you know what I mean. And if you take it slow you can learn pretty fast through practice. You will also learn more discipline and respect for others as well as how to defend yourself.

Is brazillian jiujitsu better with tkd or is judo better with tkd?

I am about to get my blackbelt in WTF taekwondo, and i want to crosstrain. Im leaning towards bjj, what do you all think?|||Depends on what you want.





Considering fight training in general as a set of practical skills that are designed to address fighting at different physical distances, from kicking/weapon to ground fighting, most martial arts fit somewhere within a range on this continuum:





kicking - hitting - clinch - take down - ground





I think Judo resides -mostly- in the clinch to take down area of this spectrum, its range also extends into ground fighting, but to a lesser degree than BJJ. BJJ training is almost exclusively focused on the ground portion of the game, but also trains in the clinch and take down ranges, but to a lesser degree than Judo.





BJJ also trains no-gi (Judo almost never does) which may better represent %26#039;real world%26#039; conditions found in many places in the world where/when jackets are not worn.|||I train judo and bjj - imho clinch range is more important overall in both mma and %26quot;real world%26quot;. Why do they say wrestling is the best base for mma? Because superior wrestlers can dictate the range between stand-up and ground. Even bjj folks will tell you not to ground fight for %26quot;real%26quot;. Report Abuse
|||in my opinion, combining BJJ and TKD should be better than Judo and BJJ. Not saying that BJJ is better than Judo, but BJJ, which concentrate more on the ground fight will complement your game better. BJJ will also teach you a bit of how to throw your opp. Even Judo also has ground techniques, but Judo is a sport now. They%26#039;ve taken out most of the techniques that regarded dangerous. The best I think would be taking both Judo and BJJ. But if I have to choose one, I%26#039;d do BJJ.|||With tkd you must have very good foot work. Between judo and bjj, I would recommend bjj. Bjj uses only the most effective throws of judo and has developed extensive ground work.





Also striking in TKD does not involve knees and elbows. Try to join a muay thai class and you will see what I mean.|||Since you%26#039;re leaning toward BJJ, it%26#039;s probably the better choice for you. Judo may be more easily available, however, and probably will cost a lot less. If you can get excellent judo instruction and only so-so BJJ classes, definitely go judo. But if you can get good BJJ instruction for a price you can afford, then you should take it, since that%26#039;s what you%26#039;re interested in.





One thing to consider about judo is that it%26#039;s designed primarily to be a standing art. You already have a standing art (though TDK is more of a sport than a fighting art), so that might give you a leg up in judo. Also, at least in theory, everything in BJJ is also a part of judo, though the reality is that BJJ practitioners usually smoke judokas on the ground unless the judoka has really focused on his newaza.|||Eh I dont think it matters that you did TKD. I dont think it wshould affect your decision much. But you flexability you gained from TKD would help you in BJJ. And if you have long legs which you probably do since you do TKD then BJJ would be better for you. And I think since BJJ is a newer art then you have a better chance at getting a good instructor.|||Judo has the ground game of ju jitsu but is much better at throws/takedowns. The Judo combined with TKD will enable you to be effective at different distances of fighting. You have your ranged striking with TKD. When the fight is close range/clinch you have Judo throws, and when the fight goes to the ground you have joint locks and chokes.





You should also probably take some boxing lessons to gain some better hand speed, power, and combinations as well as boxing%26#039;s evasive head and body movement in close. So add Judo and boxing to your TKD to become a complete fighter.


Good luck and train hard!!|||actually they would both be good. you have a striking art. judo is usually taught more as a take down art with some ground fighting while brazilian jiujitsu focused less on takedowns and more on ground fighting.





so it depends on what YOU want to focus more on now takedowns or ground fighting. But to become a %26quot;complete%26quot; fighter you need both|||I train judo and bjj.





I won%26#039;t lie about either arts. BJJ has better groundwork in gi, and no gi. Judo has better takedowns and throws, and because of the style, you will be stronger.





Judo is more well rounded then BJJ, but ne waza is important, and BJJ has the best ne waza out of any art out there. I stand by both styles.





You can%26#039;t go wrong with either one.